murdoch has used as the agent of the power, and right out front, and then not far behind the "news of the world" and then the "sunday times" which in a sense that shares a name with the "times" is a very, very different animal from the works in a different market. and i put those three together in one bracket. and they are sort of parties and vehicles and quite separately the times and i have to say in sort of an interest because i have written for them on and off for the last 30 years, but that, the times has a very different culture from these other papers, and in my lengthy experience, maintains high standards and i just say that, because i think it is quite important that they should not all be tarred with the same brush. >> it bears the weight of its history? >> yes. and it has -- and it is very interesting that they didn't end that building and end up in the other one, but a very different culture even though they are a floor apart, and it is what you might say what their readers expect. >> paragraph 50 of your statement. >> yes. >> now, if that is not an invitation, i don't kno